Do the math: 41.7 pounds per year

Consumers of wheat take in, on average, 400 calories more per day. Conversely, people who eliminate wheat consume, on average, 400 calories less per day.

400 calories per day multiplied by 365 days per day equals 146,000 additional calories over the course of one year. 146,000 calories over a year equals 41.7 pounds gained per year. Over a decade, that’s 417 pounds. Of course, few people actually gain this much weight over 10 years.

But this is the battle most people who follow conventional advice to “cut your fat and eat more healthy whole grains” are fighting, the constant struggle to subdue the appetite-increasing effects of the gliadin protein of wheat, pushing your appetite buttons to consume more . . . and more, and more, fighting to minimize the impact.

So, if you eat “healthy whole grains” and gain “only” 10 pounds this year, that’s an incredible success, since it means that you have avoided gaining the additional 31.7 pounds that could have accumulated. It might mean having to skip meals despite your cravings, or exercising longer and harder, or sticking your finger down your throat.

400 additional calories per day times 365 days per year times 300,000,000 people in the U.S. alone . . . that’s a lot of dough. Is this entire scenario an accident?

Or, of course, you could avoid the entire situation and kiss wheat goodbye . . . and lose 20, 30, or 130 pounds this year.

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  1. MJ

    Dr. Davis —
    I’m 2 weeks wheat-free — got your book on my Kindle minutes after seeing you on TV. I lost 6 pounds the first week, and have leveled off for now, but I’m mainly doing this to reverse pre-diabetic numbers. I have had a couple of interesting side-effects and wonder if they’re typical.

    I had carotid artery surgery six years ago which left me with an extremely hypersensitive area on my neck which felt like an electric shock when touched. A neurologist recently told me not to expect any return of normal sensation. Since going wheat-free, the sensation in that area is just a little numb, but the pain is gone.

    The other thing is my eyes. I was constantly cleaning my glasses because my vision had blurry patches. The opthamologist said it was caused by floaters and nothing could be done about it. This seems to have cleared up. I read in your book about wheat accelerating cataracts, but is it possible that wheat also causes problems in the vitreous?

    I have had a laundry list of age-related health problems and was resigned to them, but I’m beginning to think that wheat has been a bigger culprit than age.


    • PJ

      MJ, I used to get floaters frequently, several times a week. Though they’re considered fairly benign, they’re annoying as heck. I hadn’t really thought about it but after being grain free for several months, I haven’t had floaters for quite a while now. They seemed to have become less and less frequent. Personally, nearly all my “normal aging symptoms” are disappearing, and I would agree that it is the grains much more than the calendar that cause us to age.

      • Hey, that made me realize that MY floaters are less, too! I gave up grains May 19, 2011. I still have a few, but the huge one from the vitreous detachment from last year is almost non-existent. Huzzah! Another reason why going wheat-free is a good thing. Better eyesight!

        • MJ

          PJ, I had another symptom of aging improve yesterday. I was about to put on makeup, and discovered that the age/liver spots on my face have faded. The ones on my hands have, too!

          Erica, I had incomplete vitreous detachments in both eyes, which gave me flashes of light at night when I looked to the side. I had to give up night driving because of this. This has now been reduced to tiny pinpricks of light and I don’t think it will interfere with driving. I do have the beginnings of cataracts, though, and wonder if this can reverse from giving up wheat.

          Dr. Davis, I haven’t seen you comment on the eye-related issues people have been bringing up, and I know eyes aren’t your specialty, but improved vision could be a huge motivator for giving up wheat. Could you get an opthamologist to weigh in on this? Especially the possibility of reversing cataracts?

          MJ — 16 days wheat-free and feeling younger every day!

          • Hi, MJ–

            I have seen several instances of improved vision, though I wasn’t quite sure what the cause was–spontaneous, vitamin D supplementation (which I do a lot of), thyroid normalization, wheat elimination, weight loss, etc. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it was the wheat, however.

            I don’t know any opththalmologists interested in questions like this, sadly. This is true for many nutritional issues: a lack of interested colleagues.

            The liver spot thing is also a new one for me. That’s great!

  2. Hi – haven’t read your book yet but am already a believer. I’ve gone on several cave-women type diets over the years – not so much for weight but because I had some enlightened doctors (both alopathic and alternative) who thought it might be helpful for the asthma, arthritis, head-aches – blah blah blah – that I’ve developed as a survivor of this freakin’ bad ass world! My friend and I are trying to see if you include so-called ancient grains (kamut, spelt, quinoa, etc…) with the baddies or the goodies. We presume the baddies but await your words! I’ve recently been following the 17 day cleanse diet and it seems pretty good – no wheat or any grains in the first run of it. After Canadian Thanksgiving where I fell off my very high horse – I’m feeling crap – assume wheat to be the problem.

    • Same here. I was wheatless and was feeling better than great but slipped on this holiday weekend with stuffing etc etc…and I now feel terrible….If that is not proof in the puddin excuse the punn I don’t know what is. I hope my body will not fight as hard when I stop the wheat again as it did when I began a month ago. Any advice?

      • Repeat withdrawal, Lory, tends to be a less bothersome phenomenon.

        In my view, it’s just not worth it to have to relive the withdrawal or “re-exposure” phenomena, so I avoid it altogether. I think that is the best policy.

  3. Gyrobob

    I have a lot of floaters and the eye guy says I am, at 64, just starting to show evidence of cataracts.

    Up until age 56, I ate huge amounts of wheat. At that time, I switched to Atkins which was quite beneficial for me in lots of ways besides just losing 35 pounds,… but I stiil ate moderate amounts of wheat. Special K, low-carb bread, Carb-Quik biscuit mix, Dreamfield Pasta, etc.

    I have just about finished the book, and I am now wheat free.

    Will this have any effect on the floaters?

    Wil this have any effect on the slight fogginess from early stages of cataracts?

    Thanks much for all your are doing,


  4. Anya

    Hi! Can anyone comment on the phenomenon of inches lost vs. pounds lost? I have been wheat free for 10 days (today is day 11) and can see and feel my stomach has gone down and can feel some collar and hip bones I have not noticed in some time. However, the scale does not reflect this change, yet. How can I clearly have lost inches but not weight? This is something that is a mystery to me!

    • Iris

      Me, too. I’ve lost some weight but not enough to explain how my clothes are fitting! Not complaining, just curious.

      • Susan

        In my wheat eating/ high-carb/low-fat days, I remember being a size 12 at 135 pounds. Now, at 136 pounds on a wheat free/LC way of eating, I wear anywhere from a size 6 to a size 9 depending upon the garment. When I first went clothes shopping after getting back down to 136 I actually got pissed at the store because my thinking was “I know what size a 136 lb woman wears and it’s not a size 6, it’s a size 12!” “These garment makers are just trying to make fat ladies pretend that they have O.K. figures”. I thought they were just messing with my mind. But, as it turns out, I have been able to lose this weight, without exercise (really, I sat on my butt for the whole winter with a bad foot, knitting) and retain muscle mass which weighs more than fat! This took me a while to figure this out. Then I was tickled and not ticked off anymore.


        • Pattye

          I read that in low carb eating it is best to measure your body parts rather than weigh on a scale, because of this phenomenon of the body to hold on to water after losing fat. It does eventually come out, and sometimes in a big whoosh, but the scales lie even as clothes are falling off of your body. You can also take a weekly photo wearing the same outfit to show progression.

    • Julie

      Muscle weighs more than fat. Get a 2lb lump of lard from the butchers and compare it to a 2lb steak and see the difference in size. I don’t know how its causing the increase in muscle without exercise, but I’m quite happy for it to continue.

      • jay

        Interesting. I’ve lost almost 30 lbs and I’m finding muscles in my legs that I don’t remember seeing on my way up the scale. I had muscles like these at about 20 lbs less but not at this weight. I haven’t been exercising that much yet (yeah, that’s next to work on!) I’m thinking maybe they were from carting around that extra 28 lbs and now they are being revealed ; ). Whatever the cause I’ll take ’em!
        Another thing I find interesting is that my fat was very solid feeling, like a balloon all under my skin blown to the popping point. (except a small overlap at the bottom of my tummy.) Now my fat is flab and I can feel the skinny person underneath. When I lie on my back my stomach doesn’t interfere with the view, hee.
        I’m not done losing weight, maybe halfway there, but for the first time in years I feel like it’s not a dream, it’s something that is happening for real.

        • Excellent, Jay!

          Yes, I sometimes pinch myself to remind myself that these incredible phenomena that were previously so elusive for so many people materialize within days to weeks of saying goodbye to wheat.

  5. Wendie

    Hi All,
    Well today is Day 17 Wheat Free and although I feel tons better, I have to admit that I am disappointed by the scale. I have only lost about 3.5 lbs and i have a lot of weight to lose (50+)! I lowered my carb levels because I cannot eat a lot of nuts & nut butters, avocados and veggies and lose weight at carb levels of 40 grams plus per day.
    I am not restricting fats and also have a little dairy in the form of cheeses, sour cream and cream in my coffee. I am very diligent about no sugar and have been very careful about not eating fruits, other starches and hidden carbs in salad dressings, etc. I eat very little processed foods too. I’ve thought about just going off nuts all together and doing Atkins (but without the low carb wraps / breads this time) but have dragged my feet b/c I feel that without wheat, giving up the nuts and limiting cheese (4oz daily) will be too restrictive and backfire on me (lead to bingeing).
    I still experience cravings, especially for chocolate. I finally had some 85% dark chocolate last night. It may be my thyroid but I am needle phobic and wouldn’t go on the meds anyway so i guess Ill just have to muddle through. I may also be dairy / cheese nightshade intolerant but I refuse to give them up at this point. Heck I’ve gotta eat something folks!
    I do have to say that I screwed up Sunday night and ordered a small sugar free soy latte at the book store b/c they read me the ingredients and there was no aspartame in it or sugar. But it turns out it had 18 grams of carbs b/c they use nonfat milk in it! :0( Too bad, too, b/c it tasted AMAZING!!! I am also using the Atkins shakes and bars periodically for convenience and I know they have soy and sugar alcohols in them. May need to cut them out but it is tuff to get up at 6 am and drag all I need to work every day! I am an expert at making flax pitas now!! :0)

    • Linda

      A few suggestions for you…………
      1. When I began low carbing, I had to drop all the way down to 20 grams a day in order to lose slowly and surely. Whenever I went over 20, the losing stalled.
      2. I used ketostix when I began, checked my urine every evening to be sure I was turning that stick purple and therefore being sure I was in a state of ketosis.
      3.I would also suggest foregoing the Atkins bars and shakes. They’re over-priced and totally unnecessary and seem to cause many people to stall out.
      4. Stick to good, wholesome, whole foods as much as possible. Beef, poultry, fish, real cheese, heavy cream, butter, coconut oil, olive oil, green leafy veggies like romaine, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Later you might add berries, nuts, etc.
      5. You may be one of the less fortunate, like me, who REALLY has to watch the carb count in order to lose. I have found that keeping a daily food diary is a very important tool. Not only does it help keep you within the correct range of carbs for your body, but it is very helpful if you stall. You can then go back and see what it was you ate that may have caused the stall.
      6. You may also find that the inches change faster than the number on the scale. I was able to get into my size 10 skinny jeans long before the scale indicated that it was possible!
      Good luck!

      • Yes, my weightloss is very slow also. I have been wheat free for a month now and have only lost 5lbs. My pants do feel alot looser though. Iam experiencing no energy though. I was exercising before I started this and now I just cant get motivated to exercise at all. My carbs are very low. I found that making soups with the Healthmaster Mixer really fills me up for dinner. 2 cups of vegetable stock and some olive oil and califlower or broccoli or tomatoes, s/p. and it takes 7mins! Its a great thing to do instead of shakes or bars. Really fills you. I have lost alot of my cravings I use to have and if I do crave the chocolate or ice cream (My downfall) I can eat just a small amount and be satisfied. This is the first time in all my dieting years that I have actually felt like Im not missing a thing and I can do this for life. Its definately worth it! Im 57 and have about 15-20 llbs to lose. Ive got 5 off and shooting for the rest!

        • Excellent, J!

          However, it may be worth considering a subtle thyroid issue to account for the slow weight loss, as well as lack of energy. There are other issues to consider, but it’s always worth considering thyroid dysfunction, since it is so incredibly common.

      • Wendie

        Thanks so much for your reply Linda!
        Boy, I was really hoping not to have to go all the way down to 20–I find it so restictive, but it seems to be the trick to weight loss for me. I thought once I gave up wheat the weight would just fall off! I think ive lost some inches but I didn’t measure so it’s hard to be sure. My clothes do fit a bit better I guess.
        Its real easy to go above 20 gr with cheese, avocado, regular veggies and a bit of dairy. I wish I was one of the lucky ones that can eat 40-80 carbs no problem!
        I guess the Atkins products are also an issue.
        Yikes, why does everything have to be so challenging–I have struggled with this my whole flippin life & I’m 50! I just want to be able to eat some healthy stuff and not have to cook everything from scratch every minute! Oh well, time to stop whining and get moving! Best of luck to you!! :0) Wendie

        • Hi, J–

          You can buy these online; ZRT Labs makes them.

          At the risk of sounding like I’m selling something, the website I serve as Medical Director for,, sells these in its marketplace. We sell them because of the resistance people typically encounter when they try to go outside the parameters dictated by their doctors, which is common. So this became a necessity for our program.

          • Thanks Dr. Davis! Ill check it out. Im a little down today. I got on the scale and it says Ive GAINED 2lbs! Dont know what Im doing wrong, but Im going to check out the thyroid. I had a test done a year ago, and they said it was normal. But, I dont write it in stone. Thanks again for the tip. I dont have any health issues except some joint stiffnes, and I had a total hysterectomy about 10yrs ago. I take no Meds, and I am fairly active working on my farm. I havent touched packaged food for a lonnnng time, and eat what I consider to be pretty healthy. Just stumped I guess.

      • Wendie

        Thanks–I will check those out–But I guess once I get the result I’ll need to follow up w/ my dr and he’ll want to run ihs own blood tests (gag/terror response!)
        Is there anything natural I can take or avoid to help my thyroid naturally?
        I hear iodine is important…and avoiding flouride & peanut butter (my fave! :0( )

        • Hi, Wendie–

          Iodine is indeed important. In fact, I see several people every week who show evidence of iodine deficiency. It is coming back in all its glory, just like the early 1900s. I advise my patients to supplement somewhere between 500 and 1000 mcg of iodine per day from iodine supplements such as kelp tablets (seaweed tablets).

          I believe that the other issues, e.g.., fluoride, goitrogenic foods, are non-issues, provided you are obtaining iodine, which blocks much or all of their effect.

    • I suggest that you give it more time. Your body is healing itself, and it may take time for the scale to show what you want it to. Just stay off grains and eat lots of good protein and saturated fats, and non-starchy veggies. Eat a little dark chocolate if that’s your craving (I make chocolate mousse from cream, cocoa powder, and truvia…just whisk them together vigorously and it makes a luscious pudding that’s very low carb).

      I went grain free May 19, 2011. By July 8th, I’d lost around 25 pounds. But before that, my trousers were falling off me and the men’s XL fleece I was borrowing became huge on me. I’ve not lost but about 2 pounds since then, but have had to give away even more clothes that are now too big.

      Concentrate on your health, and letting your body heal itself with good food. Eventually the weight will normalize.

    • jay

      Some of the things I eat are fairly high in calories but I find I don’t want to eat as often or as much so it balances out. I track calories mostly because I get that reading as I track my carbs/fats/proteins (making sure I keep the first lower and am getting enough of the other two!) but the amount I end up consuming after being satisfied almost always comes in under the amount that the calorie tracker I use sets for weight loss.

      • Makes sense, Jay.

        Removing the appetite trigger from your life allows satiety with fewer calories. And it all adds up.

        Here’s an interesting potential side-benefit: Cutting calories not only leads to weight loss, but longevity.

      • I never count calories. I just eat protein, saturated fats, nonstarchy veggies. Occasionally I’ll eat some sweet potato or a very little bit of white potato (I miss this the most). No grains of any kind. And I’ve lost 25+ pounds since May. Oh, and I also eat nuts, but soaked in salt water and dried, according to Nourishing Traditions. Yum.

  6. I am a personal trainer who trains mostly women and I have always believed gluten was one of the reasons women had a hard time shedding weight. I always advise my clients to take gluten out of their diets and its has produced some amazing results. Thank you for finally putting the pieces of the puzzle together and exposing this bad substance to the masses! I am so grateful this is coming from a doctor because when it comes from other sources it is usually labeled quackery.

    • PJ

      Checked out your site. Want to thank you for expressing your opinion about the stupid pink ribbon campaign. I, too, might have more respect for the foundation if they told women the truth about prevention and treatment instead of the fear and bs we’re handed.

    • Great, Darren!

      One of the things that impresses me in these conversations is how many of us have come to similar conclusions from different directions. If we believe the objections of the Wheat Lobby and its supporters, you and I are simply imagining all this!

  7. Jennifer

    I have been wheat-free (and nearly grain free) for 15 days now but am still struggling terribly with food cravings. I am an avid exerciser and not technically overweight though would like to lose 8-10 lbs. to look and feel my best. I have always eaten especially healthy but my diet was ladden with low-carb/high-fiber (hense, high-gluten) foods. I was hopeful this would be the answer to my nighttime eatting issues but nothing has changed in this regard and now the foods I find I eat are often higher in calories (due to fat content though I still eat lots of vegatables.) I made the mistake of having some gluten-free bread with potato starch, etc. in it a few days back and had a severe reaction so I know this is an issue for me. I lost about 6 pounds the first week but have regained most of that. Does anyone have any words of advice? I am terribly frustrated and yet determined this must be at least part of my answer.

    • PJ

      Jennifer, have you tried coconut oil? I use a considerable amount daily (at least 4 tbsp) and it really cuts the cravings. If I find myself confronting a craving I just put some in my coffee (or tea) and within minutes the craving is either gone or manageable. I think coconut oil is one of the best fats to calm cravings, maintain energy and encourage weight loss. I used to have awful nighttime cravings. I make sure I eat plenty of fats and moderate protein at breakfast and lunch, then dinner is gf beef and veggies with butter oil. I rarely get the urge to have anything after dinner anymore. I really have to keep my carbs low or the cravings come back.

      Isn’t that gluten-free bread the worst?!

      • Jennifer

        Thanks so much PJ. I will give that a try. I usually have the coconut milk shake post-workout in the am but use a lower fat version of a coconutmilk beverage (5g/cup, no carbs and which is still free of all the bad stuff!) and then a large salad at lunch with chicken and 1/4 c. lentils, but I know my fat intake is still very low at that point. You may be on to something. As for the gluten-free bread, I nearly got the shakes the moment I put it in my mouth…all it is is tapioca starch!
        Thanks again and I hope things are going well for you. I will let you know if the coconut oil works.

    • Hi, Jennifer–

      Barring any medical conditions that can interfere with weight changes, you might not be eating enough.

      When I’v encountered this, one easy trick is to add healthy oils, like olive, flaxseed, and coconut, to anything and everything, e.g., a tablespoon olive oil to your scrambled eggs, more oils at lunch and dinner. This induces satiety. Yes, you are adding calories but it does not trigger weight gain.

      • I agree with Dr. Davis. Eat more fat, it really helps with cravings. When I had my craving day, about a week into no grains, I ate virgin coconut oil from the spoon. Also ate some natural peanut butter from the spoon.

        Make yourself a chocolate ‘mousse’ from whipping cream, cocoa powder, and Truvia (or Splenda, or some such non-nutritive sweetener). Whisk the heck out of it once it’s blended together, and the cream will whip up nice and firm. Makes a lovely craving pleaser.

        Another recipe I use is to mix melted virgin coconut oil with cocoa powder and Splenda granulated (the Truvia didn’t work well) and maybe a little vanilla extract. Once it’s well blended, you can add some melted butter, or not. Then I add in a couple of tablespoons of cold cream, whisking constantly. If you add it slowly, you end up with a lovely thick pudding/custard. If you do it too fast, the coconut oil sets up in little hard globules. It’s still tasty, just not very pretty.

        • PJ

          Erica, I’m going to have to try your coconut oil receipe. Sounds good. I have a coconut oil treat that everyone seems to love.
          For every cup of melted coconut oil, I stir in:
          2 rounded tablespoons unsweetened cocoa,
          a dash of salt,
          one tsp vanilla (or almond, etc.) extract,
          liquid stevia to taste.
          (I don’t tolerate sugar alcohols and I don’t use Splenda) BTW, Wisdom brand makes some excellent liquid stevia extracts in a delicious variety of flavors. I pour the blended mixture into plastic ice cube trays (about a third full), and stick them in the freezer. When they’re hard, in about a half hour or so, they pop out easily. Store them in the freezer in a good plastic freezer bag.
          I will also put walnut pieces in the cube tray and pour the coco/choco mixture over the nuts.
          These make the best “desert” and is a great way to get more coconut oil into my diet.

  8. tam

    I would just up the carbs a little, half a sweet potato with sour cream, half an apple, maybe eat more fat. Whole fat greek yogurt mixed with strawberries. Whole milk blended with chocolate chips and whey plus whip cream at Starbucks. The shake and cereal recipes are good. Taco salad no shell. Slowly transition. You’ll do better after you get used to it. My rule is, if you’re feeling bad, you’re not doing it right. No one listens to this, but keeping track of your weight at Hacker’s Diet helps see the trend.

    • Jennifer

      Thanks so much Tam. Perhaps having a small amount of fruit in the whole-milk yogurt and tracking will help – I feel encouraged by you both and really am grateful.

  9. Rose

    Hi Dr. Davis

    In 2007 I developed a skin condition, Granuloma Annulare (GA) which two Dermatologists said had no known cause or cure. Steriod creams were prescribed but had no effect. Over the years the GA covered my legs and arms with ugly red circles up to 6″ in diameter. I had to wear long sleeves and pants in Summer to cover myself as others thought I had ring-worm.

    In 2009 I was given a diagnosis of Post-Infectious IBS following severe food poisioning. I then developed Major Depression as a result of becoming more and more symptomatic with the IBS and started antidepressant therapy.

    In mid 2010 I decided to go grain-free. Within a month my IBS symptoms settled. A few more months and I was no longer diagnosed as depressed. By the beginning of 2011 I noticed that my GA was slowly fading. Luckily I took before photos – the improvement is very encouraging and this Summer I can now wear t-shirts with confidence as my arms are almost GA free.

    Dr. Davis, you say in Wheat Belly that many skin conditions can be associated with consumption of wheat.
    Have you heard of Granuloma Annulare being ‘cured’ by elimination of wheat?

    Thank you

    • Hi, Rose–

      Yes, indeed, there have been reports of granuloma anulare improving or disappearing with wheat/gluten elimination. It may or may not be associated with positive celiac markers.

      Please come back and tell us what happens!

    • Aimee

      I just noticed that the patches of GA on my feet (that I’ve had for probably 10 years) are nearly gone. I went grain-free a year ago. I just searched for any evidence of grains causing GA and found your response. Unbelievable! It’s so strange to see normal-looking skin on my feet! I can’t believe yet another problem has been fixed by going grain-free (IBS was my main reason for going grain-free in the first place).

  10. Rose

    Dr. Davis

    I just read that you would like photos of before and after

    Here is a photo of my Granuloma Annulare skin condition before going grain free mid 2010

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    Approx 12 months after going grain free:


    I also thought it would help you to know I was diagnosed with Gestational Diabetes at age 27 years and told I could become Diabetic in my 40s. I was also tested for Celiac disease in 2009 when my Post-Infectious IBS was diagnosed, as I have a cousin with Celiac. Celiac tests came back negative, but I feel sure, with the improvements I have experienced in my IBS, Depression and GA going grain-free that I am one of the Gluten mediated Intolerant people you mention in Wheat Belly.

    I am just getting my husband started (slowly) on giving up wheat and have my sons in view next :-)

    With thanks

    • Hi, Rose–

      Yes, I agree: Some of the most dramatic instances of wheat-intolerance are in people with negative celiac tests. I’ve experienced that personally.

      Sorry, but I couldn’t open your pictures. (It looks like those are file names on your hard drive.) If you’d still like to post them here, click on the “img” box above and it will allow you to upload your file to the blog server.

  11. Gyrobob

    I love milk. Heavy, high-fat, milk that has a lot of natural carbs.
    Is almond milk an acceptable substitute? Silk Pure Almond Unsweetened had the flavor and consistency I like:

    Total Fat 2.5g 4%
    Saturated Fat 0g 0%
    Polyunsaturated Fat 0.5g
    Monounsaturated Fat 1.5g
    Trans Fat 0g
    Cholesterol 0mg 0%
    Sodium 150mg 6%
    Potassium 60mg
    Total Carbohydrate 1g 0%
    Dietary Fiber 1g 4%
    Sugars 0g
    Protein 1g



  12. Gyrobob

    I finished the book.

    I find I spend a lot of time and energy debating the whole-grainers.
    — I have to be careful about not being seen carrying the book around and referring to it a lot.
    — It probably makes me appear to be a bible-thumper type, referring to chapter and verse to make a point.
    — So I go away, study a bit, and rejoin the conversation.

    On one hand (as we used to say in fighter squadrons) it is a target-rich environment. On the other, more and more folks are becoming aware of the no-wheat concepts.